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President in The Daily Show with John Stewart

President in The Daily Show with John Stewart

26 Sept 2006

John: Please welcome Mr. Pervez Musharraf

President: Thank you.

John: I know it’s customary in Pakistan to offer tea to a guest for hospitality. So I brought it for you. This is Jasmine green tea.

President: Thank you

John: May I pour?

President: Yes please indeed.

John: Thank you Mr. President is this tea recognizable to you?

President: Yes, that is in Urdu.

John: Is it a bargain tea? Have I insulted you?

President: No, but it’s a good tea.

John: I also brought and American product, it is called a Twinkie. It is made up of a collection of things that are not edible but when put all together becomes edible. We don’t know how they prepared. Thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate.

President: Thank you very much.

John: Where is Osama Bin Laden?

President: I don’t know. Do you know where he is? You lead us we will follow you.

John: Thank you very much sir.

John: I have to say this, pointing to the book “In the Line of Fire”; I confess that I don’t know much of a history of Pakistan. But this is a remarkable tale, told in very plain English about a very difficult vulnerable situation that you confront in Pakistan. Holding together, people that are moderate, people that are more extreme, people that are tribal, and try to connect all? How has this been to hold back together?

President: Difficult job indeed. Specially been made more difficult because international perceptions were pulling in one direction and domestic perceptions were sometime pulling in different direction. So I had to learn the art of typo forking many times and I think I have become quite an expert on that.

John: Diplomatic aspect of peering to

President: Yes.

John. It is very interesting to me to reach your though process after 9/11. You received a phone call from Collin Powel the next day saying that get on board or get off board.

President: You are with us or against us.

John: Two days later, Richard Armitage, the under Secretary Collin said oh. By the way if you don’t there could be some bomber buskers with Pakistan’s name on it. But your thought process was very logical. What do you think?

President: Our thought process was basically in the interest of my own country. The international interest of Pakistan and the security of Pakistan and in that one did of course take into consideration that we are a nuclear state and destabilisation of a nuclear state would cause disturbance to the whole world obviously and one has to take very deliberate decisions. That you do not cause such an upheaval. But basically may I say, all said and done, primarily it was our, Pakistan’s National interest, which I based the decision. It happened to be in the interest of the world also. And therefore we are pursuing it with all the vigour.

John: It is interesting to me that one of your first thought was, can we take these guys? In terms of America, when they said that, you know I wasn’t expecting that, I wasn’t expecting that one of your first thought to be ok lets see lets do work with America, you drew on the board and you thought yeaah.

President: Let me admit that yes, we did take into consideration every thing. Should we adopt a confrontationist approach? Should we cooperate at all? If we did not cooperate then obviously somebody else cooperate. We knew that US is going to reach out to whoever did this terrible terrorist act of 9/11 and they happened to be in Afghanistan. There is no way of reaching Afghanistan except through Pakistan. So therefore whether we are on board or not, they would be threading through Pakistan. Whether through it air space, through its land, therefore this had to be taken into consideration, certainly.

John: Why is that the North and Western provinces, the Waziristan, that is so difficult to gain control of, you actually recently made some truce with some tribal leaders in this area. I was thinking of an idea of America, you know the making the truce with Florida, because we wouldn’t, they don’t deserve it. But here you are the leader of the state and you are going to them. What is required in a truce be easier as it is saying well as long as you been as you don’t put the national interest?

President: First of all we have to understand with whom we are reaching the truce, we need to understand then what is the greatest danger that is confronting us there, today the focus has been shifted from Al-Qaeda to Taliban in that area. Now what is the greatest danger? Taliban are the people, they are the local, and they are the Pakhtoon ethnic groups. Where as the Al-Qaeda was not the locals they were outsiders and they were easily recognizable. These people are from the people. And now the greatest danger is that this Taliban movement gets converted into a Pakhtoon’s people movement. So therefore the important thing at this moment as I see, the strategy is, reign the people away from Taliban. Rein the non Taliban Pakhtoon, away from the Taliban Pakhtoon. That is the basis of whatever we are doing.

John: No longer than give hospitality to the Al-Qaeda’s that are living there, the bad Taliban’s so to speak?

President: Yes, indeed. This is an agreement not to support the Taliban but to fight the Taliban, to confront the Taliban.

John: That is interesting in the book. You are one of the primary targets of Al-Qaeda, you described, two assassination attempts. Both on the same bridge by the way, you know again not a leader of the country. I come up with a new way to go to work (funny way) but the same bridge, this is Al-Qaeda trying to say, its feeling that you have been a successful in combating them and terrorist?

President: Yes, indeed we have been successful. Because we have eliminated them from our cities. We have eliminated about 680 of them from our cities. They are no more in our cities. Therefore I keep travelling through the same bridge every time.

John: Are the extremist in Pakistan, are noisy minority. You seem to be at the forefront of the threats, you seem much common about than we are?

President: Yes, I am.


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